Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26211 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2001 13:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 13:43:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 29308 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2001 13:43:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 13:43:10 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15t7wV-0004Xo-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:38:07 +0100 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.92]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15t7wU-0004Xj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:38:06 +0100 Received: from [62.7.97.245] (helo=cambridge) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 15t7vp-0003TV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:37:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c15578$b4de7980$f561073e@cambridge> From: "Lech Laszkiewicz" To: "RSGB LF Reflector" Subject: LF: LF RELAY Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:54:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: My QTH is afflicted by very high QRM level radiated from my overhead mains supply. It was very bad when I first started experimenting with LF and got progressively worse over the years, so much so that I almost gave up on LF. It occured to me early on that if could find a spot clear of QRN within a reasonable distance I could park my car there with a small active receiving antenna and re- transmit 136 KHz signals to my shack, much as many US stations do on HF and VHF over their fixed relay installations. There was a question of the legality of the relay, remotely operated, under UK licence conditions, but it did not look absolutely impossible. There is such a QRN free spot in Crawley, only 2k away from my QTH, namely the Crawley Amateur Radio Club Shack. It seemed reasonble to try the experiment and see if it worked. Stewart G3YSX and Derek G3GRO had similar ideas and went to work on the project. And so, the much maligned MB7LF relay (not repeater) was conceived. It's effectivness was meant to be demonstrated at the RSGB Windsor Convention QTH. In spite of the fact that the Loran cancelling system was not operational it was demonstrated that the idea worked very well indeed. The relay is experimental and is not intended for a permanent global coverage, as I uderstand it. Any amateur with local QRN problem could adapt similar approach. Find a right spot, persuade the owner to allow a small whip antenna on his/her field with a small UHF yagi for relay and there you are. There are already in existence low power UHF systems that do not require a licence in some countries. The regulatory authorities in UK appear to be receptive to amateur needs and may in due course approve such operation on specified conditions. Well, it is all about experimentation and self education. Nobody objected when in the early days of LF I made a short, low power, SSB test transmission with limited audio bandwidth on 136KHz. To my amazement the phone didn't stop ringing for hours but no stones were hurled through my windows. Similarly just because I had a QSO with Windsor using my 50milliwats signal generator and two metres receiver does not mean that it will be my future mode of operation. It was possible only because I live near the relay and line of sight and I enjoy experimenting. I am not claiming any QRP DX awards on that score. 73 to All LF Experimenters and users de Lech G3KAU