Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20374 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2001 13:06:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 13:06:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4501 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2001 13:05:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 13:05:14 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15mxFa-0003uQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:00:18 +0100 Received: from tomts6.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.26] helo=tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15mxFY-0003tw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:00:17 +0100 Received: from server1 ([209.226.189.65]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010928125900.MPVB4990.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1> for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:59:00 -0400 Message-ID: <002901c1481d$569dfb10$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200109280045.f8S0jBf26068@galahad.joust.net> <001601c147c9$c445ec80$5012f4cc@jsm> Subject: LF: Re: VE7 to Eu listening tests. Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:58:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Steve: > Starting in October I would like to do some serious listening towards Eu on > LF. Which signals (commercial broadcast) would stand the best chance of > being heard? and from Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) >you might want to try to listen to the commercial transmitter DCF39 in >Magdeburg on 138.830 kHz (see http://www.qru.de/dcf39-beacon.html for >details). This is without any doubt the signal to look for. This signal has a very unique characteristic even when the signal is extremely weak visually, just a sliver wide trace of a line on the display you can see even at this level a "bloom" as the signal goes into an FSK burst of transmission. By a "bloom" I mean a very short broadening of the signal spectrum, it is absolutely unique. Non of the Loran C or Power Company carrier and spurious noise signals from the Power Company signals have this single characteristic. I have been able to see DCF39 all day long, even in July and August this year and positively ID the signal by these tiny randomly spaced "blooms" on the signal line. This signal also has a very impressive frequency stability, I am able to hold the signal in a single DFT line for hours on end. I also observe here that if you see the DFT line move (about 9 out of 10 times), down one DFT line, there will be an announcement of a solar flare from IPS in Australia a short time later. I now have secondary processing ability here to go look at the DFT data I am collecting during receive sessions. For daytime reception of DCF39 I regularly use ARGO at the longest bit setting possible and also I am now using the DSP56K Box I have here. Have you started or have ready a transmitting antenna yet Steve? Good Luck, you will hear this signal over the winter I am sure of that. Larry VA3LK