Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1206 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2001 11:52:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2001 11:52:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 5877 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2001 11:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 10 Aug 2001 11:52:02 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15VAi2-0004tv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:44:10 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15VAhy-0004tq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:44:06 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15VAhK-00077z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:43:26 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=mj9ar) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15VAhJ-0004e3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:43:25 +0100 From: "James Moritz" Organization: University of Hertfordshire To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:45:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: ZL DX testing 21 September X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Bob, John, LF group, I heard the Russian station on 171kHz for the first time last night - it shut down at 2000 utc as John says, but was only audible from 1900 at my QTH, which might have been due to propagation, or then again, it may just have been on the air for an hour. I have not heard it before when monitoring this frequency, so it may have very limited operating times. After it had closed down, another station was audible on the same frequency, with what sounded like Arabic music playing, but this was considerably weaker than the Russian station. Looking at a spectrogram display at frequencies close to 172kHz, the effect of this QRM was not unlike the "Luxembourg effect" noises often heard at the top end of 136k. The net effect was to raise the noise floor by a few dB, although QRN was still the main source of noise. Of course, one way to improve the situation would be to null out the offending noise with a loop - if the wanted signal from ZL comes over the pole, and the unwanted signals originate in Russia, this should work fairly well - does anyone know what bearing a signal from ZL should arrive on? It seems strange the LF spectrum does not get used much "down under" - I would have thought it would work very well with all that ocean to propagate over. DBF 39 transmits a carrier on 138.83kHz most of the time, interspersed at intervals of several seconds with short bursts of FSK data, mark 138.83kHz, space 139.17kHz. On a spectrogram, it will look like a 138.83kHz carrier unless a very coarse resolution is used. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU