Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12903 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 21:30:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 21:30:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 16633 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 21:30:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 21:30:09 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15UxFp-0005aY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 22:22:09 +0100 Received: from mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.17]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15UxFn-0005aP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 22:22:08 +0100 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.181.73]) by mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010809204338.MZHN580885.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:43:38 +1200 Message-ID: <00b901c12113$ea827d00$49b51bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: Re: LF: ZL DX testing 21 September Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:42:34 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Jim and other readers, Thanks for further comments on 172.0 kHz being a reasonably quiet part of the 165 - 190 kHz band in your neck of the woods. There are several participating ZL amateur LF stations, so we need more than one "slot" to handle the numbers. > Are there any strong signals in roughly this part of the spectrum > emanating from the VK/ ZL region that we could try to receive here > in Europe, as CFH and DBF39, etc, have been used over the trans- > atlantic path? This would give some sort of handle on the signal > levels and optimum time of day for a ZL > Eu attempt. There are aeronautical beacons, from 200 kHz upwards, however the frequencies are re-used many times around the globe, so QRM is an issue. The "Pacific gateway" beacon in the northern part of New Zealand is near Kaitaia, on 238 kHz, CW ID KT. This is a kilowatt type of beacon with a large antenna. A possibly useful identifier is the carrier frequency offset, which is around -1.3 to -1.4 Hz from 238 kHz. > I guess this > would be easier to do in the other direction - the Eu LF broadcast > stations are not exactly low-power, and operate continuously, so > should be a relatively easy target for reception in ZL. I suggest that LF propagation between ZL and G would likely be best when the path is "dark" or near "grey line" (in a similar manner as per 160 and 80 metres). The windows of opportunity are relatively brief. They also involve a "dawn parade" for "enthusiasts" at one end of the path, hi hi. Also note I have amended the subject title, and changed the date to 21 September (less confusing for chaps who live near Greenwich :-). 73, Bob