Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19031 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2001 00:03:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Jul 2001 00:03:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 14028 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2001 00:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 2 Jul 2001 00:01:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Gr5H-0005st-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2001 00:56:59 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Gr5G-0005so-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2001 00:56:58 +0100 Received: from Larsen.mindspring.com (user-2ivesdr.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.113.187]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29521; Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:56:13 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010701184708.02829d30@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: fgentges@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 19:10:28 -0400 To: esanders@erols.com, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, tacos@amrad.org, lf@amrad.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Frank_Gentges_K=D8BRA?= Subject: LF: Re: SAQ In-reply-to: <01C10240.0E82CC20.esanders@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I had similar experience with the 0830/0845 Z transmission. I set up out in an isolated field using a battery operated Wandel Goltermann AT463 selective voltmeter for a receiver set for high impedance input and a 30 foot length of wire. I could clearly hear GBR at 16 kHz and occasional snippets of signal were heard at 18.3 kHz. The system seemed fine but the density of sferic crashes left no holes to hear SAQ through. Not even a shred of a snippet. Since 0830 Z is 4:30 AM I was running out of energy and decided to hit the sack and decided not to get up to make the 30 minute drive for the 1230Z session. I doubt I would have done any better than earlier. I will have to join Sandy and wait for next time. We sure appreciate the efforts by the Alexander club to keep SAQ on the air and make these transmissions. It is a real challenge for us and demonstrates how effective the receive end on Long Island had to be to make a reliable link. I understand the Long Island receive site had a very long wire which acted as a directive Beverage. This LF and VLF stuff they did back then (day in and day out) seems even more impressive when you try to do something like this. Our modern whiz bang technology does not give us much of an advantage here. Frank K0BRA At 03:10 PM 7/1/01 -0400, Nan and Sandy Sanders wrote: > Listened for the 08:30 transmission on a tuned loop and on the vertical we >use for one of the AMRAD 136 beacons feeding a tuned preamp. No luck. QRN >very high plus 60HZ based noise. > For the 12:30 transmission moved I moved to my office and used the E-field >probe on the roof. Had no 60HZ noise but still no SAQ even on a waterfall >display. > Hope to have better luck next time. > Sandy > WB5MMB Frank Gentges KØBRA fgentges@mindspring.com