Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12450 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 06:33:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 06:33:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 21230 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 06:33:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 06:33:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15F8n1-0008Sh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:27:03 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15F8n0-0008Sc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:27:02 +0100 Received: from alg.demon.co.uk ([194.222.171.80]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 15F8mL-0008lu-0B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:26:21 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3B397DCB.F87B6FD3@alg.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:31:39 +0100 From: "Steve Rawlings" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: freq: monitor ?? References: <005d01c0fe76$e6a457e0$ad2c1bd4@rci> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello and welcome to Pascal F5PNP! I am sure that we were interested to learn of your plans for 136 kHz. During the design of the little 'Marathon' QRP TX, I did try to avoid the use of special ring cores like the 3c85 (or the alternative 3c90 material), but nothing worked as well! You could try using ring cores intended for EMC filters (often coloured yellow/white), but they will be more lossy. To Everyone: Many LFers in Europe and elsewhere have found local companies that sell 3c85/3c90 ring cores, and I would be happy to update my web-site with details of companies that sell these ring cores in small quantities: Please Email me direct with the details! (Pascal, I would be pleased to buy some 3c85 cores and send them to you - please Email me direct with your address.) I think that building a converter for 136 kHz is a good idea. It will work well with the 40 m dipole - but you will need to resonate the antenna using a loading coil. And the converter will need a good bandpass filter before the receive RF stage or mixer. At GW4ALG, I use only small antennas on LF, but I have never needed a pre-amp - the gain in my mixer is enough. The circuit of the receive converter section of my 136 kHz transverter can be seen at: http://www.alg.demon.co.uk/radio/136/transvtr.htm To find out more about building variometers, see: http://www.alg.demon.co.uk/radio/136/ldg_coil.htm > .... In a variometer, the coil inside is put in > serie between the two outer coil of the variometer; or we build first the > outer coil, and then, we connect the inside coil in serie to terminal...??? My preferred wiring configuration for variometers is shown at: http://www.alg.demon.co.uk/radio/136/ldg_coil.htm#mark2 You can build the outer and inner coils separately, and join the coils together later using soldered connections or 'chocolate block' terminal strip. It would be much more fun to experiment on 136 kHz (especially when running QRP) if you had some local OMs also wishing to explore LF. Discovery is much more exciting if it happens as part of a group activity - with everyone sharing ideas, and learning from each other! Perhaps this would make a good club project at F6KAW? Other active stations on 136 kHz are F6CNI and F6BWO. Good luck on 136! Regards to all, Steve GW4ALG