Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10160 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2001 07:25:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2001 07:25:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29113 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2001 07:26:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 24 Jun 2001 07:26:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15E4Ba-00004y-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:19:58 +0100 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15E4BZ-00004t-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:19:57 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from alg.demon.co.uk ([194.222.171.80]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15E4At-000J7y-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 07:19:15 +0000 Message-ID: <3B3595AE.8E5E5261@alg.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:24:30 +0100 From: "Steve Rawlings" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LF Group" Subject: LF: Noise canceller revisited Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi All, In early June, and within a few days of each other, John G3CCH; Ron G6RO; and Bob G8RW all mentioned to me how new sources of local QRM on 136 kHz had suddenly appeared at their respective QTHs. The increasing number of LF operators experiencing QRM problems in suburban locations prompted me to see if I could redesign my noise canceller so that the phase-shift network could be built using readily available RF chokes, instead of using custom coils wound on 3C85 cores. Well, to cut a long story short, three weeks of effort (and virtually no operating!) has resulted in no alternative to using the custom coils, without incurring a significant re-design of the canceller. Of course, after all the trial and error attempts to get the RF chokes to work, my original (previously, neat and tidy) noise canceller now looks like a bird's nest. So it will take a few days to restore it! Nevertheless, I now know the way I'd like to proceed when I get time to build a new version of my dual noise canceller. I won't clog up the Reflector with the detail, but I have posted my thoughts at: http://www.alg.demon.co.uk/radio/136/noise_can.htm#ideas I've also updated the constructional details for my QRP LF TX at: http://www.alg.demon.co.uk/radio/136/qrptx.htm Regards to all, Steve GW4ALG