Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17650 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 16:37:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 16:37:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26279 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 16:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 16:36:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15D7NS-00032s-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:32:18 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from ims.rz.uni-kiel.de ([134.245.1.88]) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15D7NN-00032l-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:32:14 +0100 Received: from srv1.mail.uni-kiel.de by ims.rz.uni-kiel.de with Local-SMTP (PP); Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:30:57 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from nephro.uni-kiel.de (PC108194.dial.uni-kiel.de [134.245.108.194]) by srv1.mail.uni-kiel.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA07007 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:30:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B322147.DA381EE0@nephro.uni-kiel.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:31:03 +0200 From: "Peter W. Schnoor" Organization: Clinic of Nephrology, University of Kiel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Loop antenna by DF3LP... References: <29BDD4F529FCD311B631009027357C4E02258788@btss103a.swh.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Richard, Gasparik Richard wrote: > I have build an loop antenna (project of DF3LP). I find that the > sensitivity of the loop with preamp is very low. DFC39 is normaly 50-60dB > over S9 on my LW antenna, but with loop antenna it's 30dB less. The "gain" of this antenna is approx. -60 dB, approx. 30 dB down compared to my vertical. So the simple preamp as described *plus* a Dual-Gate MosFet in front of my first mixer stage are sufficient for hearing/seeing reasonable background noise levels even on "quiet" winter mornings. > I tuned it for the maximu with serial caps. Hmm... I remember using *parallel* caps so that the loop acts as parallel tuned circuit! Do you apply rigid Flexwell cable or similar for the frame? I found a significant difference using rugged air insulated cable compared to thin coax (60 Ohms) of unknown origin at the same geometry. RG213 or better are recommended. Compared to other loop designs the bandwidth is *broad* and it was difficult tuning the mid frequency right on the amateur band by fixed caps. > Directivity is very good (more than 40dB at > 90 degrees). It's normal or not ? Yes, I found more than 50 dB of directivity at ground wave (!) propagation. The main goal for building this loop was (i) nulling out the LORAN splatter from SYLT as sharp as possible and (ii) shielding the E-field as much as possible. 73 es gl de DF3LP Peter