Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23100 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 09:04:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 09:04:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 29535 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 09:03:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 09:03:52 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 158eW8-0001yM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:54:48 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [194.200.20.13] (helo=mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 158eW4-0001yH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2001 09:54:44 +0100 Received: from ldsas11-75-126-97.cw-visp.com ([212.137.126.97] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 158eOz-0001Py-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2001 08:47:26 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3B21D48C.A8D4346A@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 08:47:25 +0100 From: "gii3kev" Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb rsgb" Subject: LF: 73 khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi All I am not surprised that Laurie has been seen/heard on 73 khz in VE1. I said in a message some months ago that 73 khz was suitable for a transatlantic qso, under normal to good propagation conditions and with the power we are permitted to use. This therefore is not a surprised to me and in fact any LF frequency given suitable propagation and modest power would work long haul. High power is normally associated with LF for reliability purposes and one tends to think that it is a necessity for communications over long distances but this is not true, especially for a radio amateur who only wants an occasional qso and some excitement. With a modest vertical 100 - 150 feet tower in the clear and top loaded, a suitable ground radial system and modest power say 1 - 5w erp a lot could be achieved on LF long haul. I know at least 9 radio amateurs that have these facilities, only two so far are active on LF. One of these persons has 3 x 130 ft towers, and most of the others have 2 each in excess of 100 feet. Most of these amateurs are located in GI land, there are probably quite a lot more high towers throughout Europe that I do not know about and would be suitable for LF if the persons were interested, but it appears that most are NOT. The uptake in LF activities around Europe is very slow, and those best equipped with suitable antenna masts and real estate are the LEAST interested. 73 de Mal/G3KEV