Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11985 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 11:45:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 11:45:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26441 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 11:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 11:45:28 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 157bWr-0003dR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:31:13 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [213.2.16.106] (helo=rsgb.org.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 157bWn-0003dM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:31:09 +0100 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.0.R) for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:21:24 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:21:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Wire in the Air etc Message-ID: <3B1E2042.14234.A6BF51@localhost> In-reply-to: <3B1D896F.4EC3EA1A@ns.sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-Return-Path: miked@mail X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > About antenna . I wonder if the increase in efficiancy is caused > by the higher antenna capacity which permits smaller coil and therefore > less loss due to coil resistance. This might also explain the big > signals from Jack and the OH station. I am thinking of putting up a 50 > ft vertical with a 400 ft long wire from top. How does that sound? > John VE1ZJ You will only save an ohm or two on the loading coil, whereas there is much more to be saved in the earth resistance. As with most amateur radio, the big signals have lots of wire at a good height. Your projected antenna would be the envy of most Eu operators, but if you can get it higher - even at the expense of length - it will work better. ERP is a function of effective height squared. The effective height is directly proportional to actual height, but the relationship between actual and real height is not affected much once you have a good size top section, so actual height is the most important. Of course, as Laurie has demonstrated, it also helps if you can increase the current significantly with a bigger top section, as ERP is also a function of current squared. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.lf.thersgb.net