Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2488 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 13:58:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 13:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 6037 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 13:57:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 13:57:58 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 159S7e-0001PT-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:52:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.80] helo=mailout01.sul.t-online.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 159S7d-0001PO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:52:50 +0100 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 159S70-0001PQ-01; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:52:10 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from (087321565-0001@[217.2.69.115]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 159S6y-1U6YeuC; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:52:08 +0200 From: "Hans-Joachim Brandt" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <00c501c0ef45$d61a3ec0$5774ccd4@194.95.193.10.fen.baynet.de> <3B24ACC6.80671DF0@usa.net> Subject: Re: LF: [TECH] Help needed on toroid trasf. construction X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:52:08 +0200 Message-ID: <159S6y-1U6YeuC@fwd03.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 087321565-0001@t-dialin.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Alberto, as long as it for receive only, I think the best way will be to use a toroid with a rather high AL value. About 30 years ago I had to design an rx input balun transformer for a military receiver for the frequency range 10 kHz to 3o MHz and have used SIEMENS N30 without any problems, employing the rule that the XL of the coils should be about 3-4 times the impedance to be transformed at the lowest frequency. In this application the balun has been wound with triple twisted enamelled wire on a SIEMENS B62152-A0007-X030 core. OK? 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB Alberto di Bene schrieb: > Hi all, > I need some words of wisdom and a bit of help about the > construction of a small toroid transformer. > > First the antefact : I swapped recently my TS-850 for a TS-950SDX, > a very fine radio, but much less sensitive on the LF band than the TS-850. > Looking at the schematics, and doing some filter simulation with > Electronic Workbench, I think to have found the culprit, i.e. L3, a small > toroidal transfomer, with ratio 1:4, which is inserted in the signal path, > after the input attenuator, and before the filters bank. With all probability, > its response at 136kHz leaves much to be desired. The TS-850 doesn't > have any such transformer, the signal goes straight to the filters. > > So I have decided to replace it. Looking in the MiniCircuits catalog, I have > found what seems to be the ideal replacement, the T4-6T-KK81 model, which > has a -3dB response from 10kHz to 100MHz. Problem is that this transformer > is not carried in stock by the Italian distributor, and both they and the > MiniCircuits sales office have a minimum quantity amount for an order. > > At this point the only choice is to build it myself. And this is were your > help could > come in my rescue. I need to know what your experiences are in building > such a wideband kind of transformers. What is the best type of material, > caveats to not forget, optimal number of turns, you name it. > > TNX for any help, > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > >