Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22330 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 05:46:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 05:46:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28321 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 05:46:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 05:46:09 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 157Vug-0000in-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:31:26 +0100 Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.176] helo=protactinium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 157Vuf-0000ii-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:31:25 +0100 Received: from [213.123.11.91] (helo=dave) by protactinium with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 157Vu2-0006J7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 06:30:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c0ee4a$2091f1c0$5b0b7bd5@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3B1CBECE.20545.61E3BE@localhost> Subject: LF: Re: Advice to beginners Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:31:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From Dave G3YMC Comments on remarks by Mike G3XDV and others: >Be realistic: If you have a 40m dipole, 8m above ground and strapped as a >Marconi, over poor soil, you are wasting your time with 5W. Good results will >can be had with several hundred watts - easily and cheaply obtainable with a >BK Electronics amp. It is simply not true that several hundred watts are needed to have useful results on the band. With my 35W and a loop in an impossible QTH I enjoy plenty of enjoyable contacts, and four countries and a best DX of 470km scarcely indicates I have been wasting my time. OK it is not easy - I shall shortly be experimenting with an antenna not dissimilar to what Mike describes and hope it furthers my possiblilities. >Also (those who have been on this reflector for years will remember my old >sermon) it is vital to optimise the receiver as you won't work anyone you can't >hear. I totally agree. Time and time again I am listening to a QSO and copy both sides perfectly Q5, but the two participiants seem to have great difficulty copying each others. OK differences in location and selective propogation may be the reason, but it happens too often, and usually it is obvious they have an inadequate receiver. There are still some of the active operators who have yet to get this message. >This appears to be a similar effect to that seen on HB9ASB's signals when he >was regularly active on Sunday mornings a year or two ago. Toni remains one of the most active stations on Sunday mornings - perhaps he has gone by the time most people surface. But I often experience this selective propogation and QSB at different times from others. 73s Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com dsergeant@iee.org http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk