Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6420 invoked from network); 21 May 2001 13:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 21 May 2001 13:01:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 15631 invoked from network); 21 May 2001 13:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 21 May 2001 13:00:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 151pCA-00016v-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:53:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 151pBq-00016q-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:53:39 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151pBI-0005gd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:53:04 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from [147.197.130.252] (helo=mj9ar) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 151pBH-0005GQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:53:03 +0100 From: "James Moritz" Organization: University of Hertfordshire To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:53:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Wimborne talk on Wolf In-reply-to: <3B08FCDC.484F74DF@virgin.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Stewart, LF group, Nice to see everyone again at Wimbourne yesterday. Hope everyone had a good trip home. In response to Stewart's points, As far as I know, BPSK is good because you can use, indeed have to use, a coherent detection scheme. If you were using an FSK modulation scheme, presumably you would have to find a way of making the two tones have a fixed phase relationship to some reference to achieve similar advantage. Generating BPSK at 13.6MHz and dividing it down to 136k would also divide down the phase modulation from 180degrees to 1.8degrees, which I don't think would do much for the demodulated SNR. Using the normal CW keying shaping to amplitude modulate the BPSK transitions would result in a BPSK signal with roughly the same bandwidth as the CW signal. However, the amplitude keying transitions for CW are normally much faster (5 -10ms) than those I am using for BPSK (=1 bit period = 100ms), otherwise the CW keying sounds excessively "soft" for aural reception. Looking at typical CW spectra on the air, they usually have a bandwidth of around 1-200Hz, wheras my current BPSK signal has about 20Hz BW. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU