Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5882 invoked from network); 29 May 2001 10:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 29 May 2001 10:27:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 25660 invoked from network); 29 May 2001 10:27:10 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 29 May 2001 10:27:10 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 154ga0-00027X-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:18:24 +0100 Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 154gZz-00027S-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:18:23 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA1647310 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:17:47 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010529111833.21872324@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:18:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Field effect versus bipolar transistors In-reply-to: <001001c0e821$a6c3f9c0$a1d51ad4@w8k3f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Dick, The power FET's that are used in LF-Pa's are less vulnerable than most bipolar power transistors. These FET's are designed for switched power supplies and can withstand quite a lot of mistreatment if some basic rules are observed. I am still using the same FET's for the past 3 years in a class D PA (fingers crossed). I believe that most problems with these FET's occur on linear PA's, as you try to make a linear amp with devices that are optimized for switching. Main advantages of these power FET's are : - fast switching (= high efficiency in class D or E) - low 'on voltage' (= low heating of the device) - far less sensitive to 'thermal breakdown' (compared to bipolar) - withstand rather high voltages (400V or more for most devices) - (almost) powerless drive - cheap 73, Rik ON7YD At 11:27 29/05/01 +0200, you wrote: >To All from PA0SE > >Most of the designs for high power transmitters for the LF bands I have seen use power-FETs in the final. Examples are the designs by G0MRF and G3YXM in The low frequency experimenter's handbook. But we all know from experience that FETs are very vulnerable (extremely fast fuses). Would not power bipolar transistors be more robust? What are the advantages of FETs over bipolars? >FETs do not require real power to drive them. But for stability and maybe other reasons rather low value resistors are often connected from gate to common; this together with the higher voltage to drive a FET than a bipolar transistor could well mean that the actual power to drive a FET amplifier is higher than for a bipolar design. > >The Handbook features a design by DJ1ZB using complementary darlington-pairs (the emitter arrows in some of the transistor symbols point the wrong way!). But they produce 100W only. >I think I have seen higher power bipolar transistor transmitters in Break-In. Perhaps the ZL boys can comment. > >If anyone has evaluated the pros and cons of field effect and bipolar transistors for high power LF transmitters I would be grateful to hear them. > >73, Dick, PA0SE > >Attachment Converted: "C:\EUDORA\ATTACH\LFFielde.htm" >