Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25494 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 01:34:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 13 May 2001 01:34:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 21329 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 01:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 13 May 2001 01:34:22 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14ykcv-0006eY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 May 2001 02:24:53 +0100 Received: from smtp.snet.net ([204.60.6.55]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14ykcu-0006eT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 May 2001 02:24:52 +0100 Received: from pop.snet.net (pop.snet.net [204.60.6.9]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f4D1OFL08126 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 21:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mainc (177.202.252.64.snet.net [64.252.202.177]) by pop.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-pop-1.5/D-1.8/O-1.6) with SMTP id f4D1OET24702 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 21:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006401c0db4d$751a5a80$0100a8c0@mshome.net> From: "Paul A. Cianciolo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Fundemental Ground System question Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 21:38:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Folks, I have had the priviledge of being subscribed to this list for about a year now. I absolutley enjoy and learned a lot. Thank you. Many times though the list will engage topics that I do not understand.... So I hit the books.. Thank you again! Every now and then it seems neccessary to find several references on a topic and approach it from a number of "different angles" This is the case with all this talk about ground systems, losses in earth, trees, building, etc. Can someone point me to a sight where some of this is explained? For instance is a vertical antenna system sort of like a complex circuit of L, C, and R? With some of the R being the earth? Some of the C being to ground in series with this R that is is series with the L? Isn't there L in the ground path if we put down radials. Is not there C between those radial and the antenna? And the earth for that matter. Do trees shunt current to earth? There seems to be a million different values that need to be considered!!! So... I am very confused. I am in the Northeastern US with 3 acres of property and 130" tower. Needless to say I am chomping at the bit for 136 Khz to accepted for use here in the states. I realize that these are basic questions but I want to understand. There are list members from all over the world subscribed here which is why I pose the topic to this list. Many times a RSGB book will explain a topic better/differently than the say the domestic books. Confused in Connecticut. Anyone else in the same boat? Thank you Paulc W1VLF Cloudbounce Webpage http://www.qsl.net/w1vlf/ Rescue Electronic Surplus http://www.rescueelectronics.com 1982 Vanagon Diesel Turbo Diesel 1.9 GE Electrak E20 and E15 electric tractors First place in local tractor pulls at 1750 LBS With Stock E-20 Electric tractor Air Rifle Target Shooting Enthusiast