Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1356 invoked from network); 10 May 2001 22:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 10 May 2001 22:33:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 7416 invoked from network); 10 May 2001 22:32:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 10 May 2001 22:32:34 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14xysN-0002hO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 May 2001 23:25:39 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.1]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14xysM-0002hJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 May 2001 23:25:38 +0100 Received: from rvernall ([202.27.178.68]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010510222432.WTCS2184114.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@rvernall> for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:24:32 +1200 Message-ID: <004301c0d99f$f42a1540$2cb21bca@rvernall> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3.0.1.16.20010510084513.2c6f9b82@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Subject: Re: LF: Antenna Current Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:23:25 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all following this theme, I have thought of a further test to explore phase differences of current into the cold end of the loading coil and current making it out the hot end. With two RF ammeters, one bottom and one top, observe if current peaking tracks near resonance or whether peaks are a little apart, as the antenna is tuned across resonance (either by variometer or frequency change of the transmitter). If the bottom current is comprised of I and Q components, then the matching will not be purely resistive SWR when the current out the top is peaked. I currently have a lack of facilities to do tests with two ammeters on my LF antenna, so I apologise for putting up suggestions for possible tests but not substantiating with practical measurements of my own. With the monitoring I do have, which is a current transformer partly up the loading coil (I have four series inductors to make up my loading), an L match at the "cold" end to give close to 50 ohms, and a good SWR meter in the 50 ohm line from the transmitter, I can say that I never get maximum RF current concurring with minimum SWR, but they are offset a little. This observation supports the supposition that when the radiating current (current out the top of the loading coil) is peaked, there is also a reactive current going in to the bottom of the coil to "feed" stray capacitance to ground, so the impedance "seen" at the cold end can not be purely resistive. If the variometer is adjusted for minimum SWR, what that is doing is providing a small amount of inductive reactance to make the input appear resistive (and 50 ohms because of my L match) but doing this actually reduces the radiating current by a small amount. So these observations support the supposition that a current I+Q goes in the cold end of the loading coil, and I comes out the hot end. Another point is where to put an RF ammeter to use for tuning for maximum radiation: it would seem to be far better in the "up wire" at the "hot" end of the loading coil, as radiating current is what facilitates QSOs. 73, Bob