Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17493 invoked from network); 26 May 2001 00:37:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 26 May 2001 00:37:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 8475 invoked from network); 26 May 2001 00:36:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 26 May 2001 00:36:43 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 153Rxm-0007dZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 May 2001 01:29:50 +0100 Received: from tomts13.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.34] helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 153Rxl-0007dU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 May 2001 01:29:49 +0100 Received: from server1 ([209.226.189.169]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010526002843.CGIZ25498.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1> for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:28:43 -0400 Message-ID: <002701c0e57a$6ea65820$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003201c0e3dc$ea7f5ea0$c7727ad5@default> <013501c0e514$fb099630$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> <000901c0e53f$9a640380$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> <002001c0e561$69fc3a60$09dc9384@ma.ultranet.com> Subject: LF: Re: Re: CME with a "Glancing pass near Earth"? Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:25:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: John: > My limited understanding of this subject is that we currently have a > two-dimensional view of what is obviously a three-dimensional process. With > this limitation, it is difficult to predict the arrival time or severity of > the effects from a CME. I agree with your conclusions, the issue for me is however neither "arrival time" or "severity", I just want to know if what ever is going on streams past the Earth withing 7.5 Million miles. My second need, would be to understand the energy level of the particles that are going my at the closest approach to Earth, that one I feel is far beyond what might be available information. If an ejection occurs from the Sun's limb, it is > unlikely to be earth-directed, of course. But predictions of CME's from the > rest of the visible side of the Sun appear to be vague, until they arrive at > satellites in near earth orbit. Excellent, I have a sense that the CME's can come out any odd angle fromt he surface of the Sun, this is why I find the whole thing so confusing. The notion of the satellites in near earth orbit is interesting, they would only tell us what is going to clobber us, not what is going by at some distance from us, if I have any understanding of what these satellites can detect. Thank You for your time and efforts, if you come by anything further please let me know about it. My interest is not short term but long term. 73 for the moment, Larry VA3LK