Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9174 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 12:55:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 1 May 2001 12:55:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 22922 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 12:55:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 1 May 2001 12:55:12 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14uZTN-0006tf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 May 2001 13:41:45 +0100 Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.18]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14uZTG-0006tY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 May 2001 13:41:39 +0100 Received: from modem-74.aranel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.119.74] helo=g3aqc) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14uZSj-0001vt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 May 2001 13:41:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c0d233$a3bfe080$4a77883e@g3aqc> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re. Ground systems Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:40:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Hi Tom,
Grounding is the big problem at LF as I am sure you know.Radial systems that would be effective on 40, 80,or even 160 are impossible (100 X quarter wavelength makes the mind boggle)Ground penetration and the extent of the near field means that modest radial systems and short ground rods are virtually useless,and I have tried,I currently have about 500m of buried wire and 30  four foot rods.I recon I could disconnect most of this with no effect.I think that the same would apply to burried sheets of metal unless they were several hundred feet square ! Re. the water table  Fresh water is an insulator so no use. In the UK this winter the water table was on the surface,with no measurable difference to loss resistance. I live near salt water and a connection to the sea does help but only a little. For the Transatlantic tests I ran out 3 radial wires of about 150 feet to 4 ft rods in sea water . One helped but the others  added nothing. So use the biggest longest system you can find ie mains earth, water supply etc. but dont waste too much time with buried wires! far better to put more WIRE IN THE AIR.I have a theory that the top load should have as large a Footprint as possible.In my case the top load is 10X the length of the vert section.It does not need to be in a straight line and can zig-zag if necessesary.  Rik ON7YD has written this up in his "Antennas for 136kHz . see www.qsl.net/on7yd/
Hpoe this some help. 73s Laurie.