Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10656 invoked from network); 12 May 2001 20:06:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 12 May 2001 20:06:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14529 invoked from network); 12 May 2001 20:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 12 May 2001 20:05:35 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14yfUV-0004Pj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 May 2001 20:55:51 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.visp.telinco.net ([212.1.130.1]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14yfUU-0004Pe-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 May 2001 20:55:50 +0100 Received: from [212.1.153.26] (helo=g4jnt) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14yfOU-00035A-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 May 2001 20:49:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c0db1d$56d4e020$1a9901d4@g4jnt> From: "Andrew Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Measurement of antenna current Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:53:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Steve and group Aluminium kitchen foil is much thinner than the skin depth at these frequencies, so you are getting nowhere near the full screening effect. Skin depth is given by 503.SQRT(Rho / Freq) where Rho is the resistivity in Ohm metres, 2.7E-8 for Aluminium, and Freq in Hz So the skin depth at 137kHz is 0.22mm. I measured the thinkness of some (Sainsbury's own brand) foil at 0.03mm. This equates to 0.13 skin depths. The skin depth is defined as the point where the current penetration has fallen to 1/e or 37% of its surface value [ EXP(-1) ] , so in this foil the field is only reduced by a factor of EXP (-0.13) = 0.87. Therefore only 13% screening. You would get a more significamnt effect by using sheet aluminium , or several layers of Al foil. I wouldn't have thought it was necessary to use such a large area either. All you are really trying to do is prevent penetration of the fields from the coil into lossy ground (skin depth many metres|), so a diameter not much more than twice the coil radius would probably do. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rawlings >I then moved the loading coil to one side, and put down two >strips >of aluminium foil, each measuring 450 mm x 1600 mm. I left a >gap of 30 mm between the strips, so the overall area covered >measured 930 mm x 1600 mm. Four lengths of timber were then >placed along the edges of the aluminium foil to hold it