Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8827 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 15:07:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 15:07:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 18793 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 15:07:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 15:07:04 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14uF95-0006Ah-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:59:27 +0100 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14uF90-0006AZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:59:23 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from [147.197.200.44] (helo=gemini) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #4) id 14uF8S-0005JK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:58:48 +0100 Message-ID: <26767.200104301458@gemini> From: "James Moritz" Organization: University of Hertfordshire To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:59:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: Wolf Tests X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear LF Group, Have not been very active lately due to visiting relatives, but I have been making regular recordings on 137.79kHz in an attempt to receive VA3LK's Wolf-mode beacon sigs. So far, however, nothing to report - solar activity has been mostly high since I started, so perhaps this is to be expected. Regarding the noise level at the to edge of the band, it is certainly true that the "Luxembourg Effect" QRM is stronger than lower down the band. However, it usually comes in bursts of fairly short duration, so I would expect it not to have too serious effects on the Wolf signal, since all the information in this is effectively distributed over a long period of time. I think there may be more problems due to the various carriers that exist within the bandwidth occupied by the Wolf signals - as far as I can tell, these effectively increase the noise level, and the Wolf signal is too wide to avoid them in the same way as can be done with QRSS. So it might be worth looking for a quieter part of the band relatively free from carriers. I would think the fact that Larry is physically relatively close to CFH makes it unlikely that his signal would cause QRM to the users of CFH - I suppose there is an area around Larry's QTH where his signal is strong enough to cause problems for CFH reception; but since CFH is much higher power, and the signal bandwidth quite narrow, this area must be very small. Since Larry is inland of CFH, I think it is unlikely that his signal is ever going to be a problem to the Canadian navy, even on an adjacent frequency. There is more likely to be a difficulty for them from European stations on this side of the Atlantic, where CFH is relatively weak. As G3XDV notes, the number of lines of output from Wolf depends on the length of the recording. Each 96 second frame of Wolf data generates a line of output, except the first frame, which gives 3 lines. The maximum length of data that can be handled is 1632 seconds, which is 17 frames, or about 27 minutes. If the file is longer than this, the rest of the data will be ignored. If you want to decode the later parts of a very long file, the -s parameter specifies the number of samples that will be ignored by Wolf before decoding starts, eg. to start 1/2 hour into a recording, put -s 14400000 (30mins x 60secs x 8000samples/sec). The thing to remember about the figures generated by Wolf is that they don't mean very much unless a signal really is being decoded. It is instructive to make a recording of some noise, and run it through Wolf - as often as not, strings of identical -f and -jm figures will appear, as they do for a real signal. This means that trying to optimise Wolf parameters using the numbers generated by Wolf is unlikely to be helpful unless a signal has already decoded successfully. I will run my Wolf-mode beacon again over the next few days if anyone is interested; the frequency and bit rate of this is accurate enough to use as a calibration reference for setting up a Wolf receiving system. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU