Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8727 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 22:24:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 22:24:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 16361 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 22:24:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 22:24:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14ikct-0003jx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:10:43 +0100 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.161]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14ikcs-0003js-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:10:42 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id l.8d.4763591 (17228) for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:09:41 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <8d.4763591.27f50ca5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:09:41 EST Subject: Re: LF: BPSK PLL, wheels To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 70 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Rik, Jim, Rye and all, > The error between input and > output phases could be corrected either by increasing the VCO > frequency until the output phase "catches up" with the input, or > decreasing it until it "slows down" to match the input. The output > phase could shift in either direction, although the end result would > always be to match the input phase. Like in real life, it's sometimes a sad thing to have to decide one way or another. If that PLL could take both routes simultaneously, the result would be perfect soft BPSK again :-) . In the 30's, there was a scheme called "Chireix modulation" which added the power outputs of two phase-modulated class-C transmitters to achieve AM in an efficient way. > I am working on this round thing that can be used to reduce friction rather > than simply dragging things across the ground..... Me too, apparently... I hardly dare say it in public, but in my opinion, re-inventing basic stuff is not so stupid at all. Don't we learn a lot more by own thinking and fiddling than by just believing in the solutions the experts have come up with for us? Trying to catch a glimpse of tiny dots encircling Jupiter in a homemade cardbord-roll telescope may be more exciting and instructive than a great show of colourful deep-sky HST images on the web. Which of course is not bad, either... 73 de Markus, DF6NM