Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27398 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2001 18:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 20 Mar 2001 18:11:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20612 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2001 18:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 20 Mar 2001 18:11:37 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14fQXD-0003ws-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:07:07 +0000 Received: from imo-r16.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.70]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14fQXA-0003wf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:07:05 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id l.72.8cd73c8 (4258) for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:06:01 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <72.8cd73c8.27e8f609@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:06:01 EST Subject: Re: LF: DFCW To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows DE sub 217 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Rik and others,

Rik wrote
> 1. Using DCF77 (or similar) and the appropriate software (such as provided
> by DL4YHF) one can set the PC clock with a 1/10 second accuracy.
> Even by
> setting the PC clock by hand an accuracy of better than 1 second can be
> achieved. So the PC's at both sides (TX and RX) can have their clock
> 'synchronized' at 1 second or better.

Well, the DCF77 decoder was a nice experiment, but not too much more than
that.
The problem is, PC clocks (though called 'Real Time Clocks') can be quite
bad, much worse than the cheapest wristwatch you can buy in a coffee-store.
So setting the clock for an accuracy of 0.1 sec or better only lasts for a
few MINUTES (!) on some nasty PCs (like the one I have to use sometimes).
What really helps would be a GPS (costly, only works if satellites visible)
or a cheap DCF receiver connected to the serial port (if not already occupied
by mouse, modem, PIC, TRX control, DSP board etc etc).
You have to readjust the clock continously, if you want 'reliable' second
markers for recording intervals of an hour or so. A possible workaround would
be using the soundcards "calibrated" sample rate as a timebase.

I once implemented such "time marker lines" in Spectrum Lab (configurable
from 1 sec per line to several minutes) but that feature seems to be hidden
too deep in the configuration dialog hi. Anyway, you may try it to check how
fast the PC clock 'runs away' from the DCF-signal observed with a fast
scrolling waterfall (by the way, a nice experiment comparing the clock pulses
from DCF and MSF).

Sorry abt my latest posting - it has a redundancy of exactly 100 percent !

73's Wolf.