Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24037 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 20:46:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 20:46:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 9367 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 20:46:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 20:46:34 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14j5gk-0003On-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:40:06 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.sitestar.net ([205.160.234.10] helo=mail.neocom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14j5gi-0003Oi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:40:05 +0100 Received: from sitestar.net (reston-gnap-ip-216012-167.dynamic.ziplink.net [216.8.12.167]) by mail.neocom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2UKdap24926 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:39:36 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3AC4EFE3.72439BF0@sitestar.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:43:15 -0500 From: "Rye Gewalt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: BPSK PLL, wheels References: <8d.4763591.27f50ca5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I couldn't agree with you more regarding re-inventing things. I think that there are a lot of roads that were investigated and abandon as dead ends years ago --- and with today's technology they can be very fruitful and interesting. In some respects this LF activity is like that. But I still like my wheel idea. Sometimes my sense of humor gets me into trouble -- I apologize but hope a few got a chuckle or two out of it.... Rye MarkusVester@aol.com wrote: > Hi Rik, Jim, Rye and all, > > > The error between input and > > output phases could be corrected either by increasing the VCO > > frequency until the output phase "catches up" with the input, or > > decreasing it until it "slows down" to match the input. The output > > phase could shift in either direction, although the end result would > > always be to match the input phase. > > Like in real life, it's sometimes a sad thing to have to decide one way or > another. If that PLL could take both routes simultaneously, the result would > be perfect soft BPSK again :-) . In the 30's, there was a scheme called > "Chireix modulation" which added the power outputs of two phase-modulated > class-C transmitters to achieve AM in an efficient way. > > > I am working on this round thing that can be used to reduce friction rather > > than simply dragging things across the ground..... > > Me too, apparently... I hardly dare say it in public, but in my opinion, > re-inventing basic stuff is not so stupid at all. Don't we learn a lot more > by own thinking and fiddling than by just believing in the solutions the > experts have come up with for us? Trying to catch a glimpse of tiny dots > encircling Jupiter in a homemade cardbord-roll telescope may be more exciting > and instructive than a great show of colourful deep-sky HST images on the > web. Which of course is not bad, either... > > 73 de Markus, DF6NM