Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24825 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2001 15:05:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2001 15:05:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 24446 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2001 15:05:23 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 20 Mar 2001 15:05:23 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14fNan-0002hF-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:58:37 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14fNal-0002hA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:58:35 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA09632 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:13 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010320155747.2b1f164c@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:57:47 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: LF: DFCW In-reply-to: <001d01c0b146$a6dcf720$9628893e@g3aqc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 14:03 20/03/01 -0000, G3AQC wrote: >I experimented last night with slightly shorter dots- 25secs rather than my >usual 30. This reduced my total message time (for three repeats of G3AQC) from >56mins to44mins,including CW ident. I want to get shorter times without >reducing readability and both Rik and Alberto are helping with this. I think >DFCW is the most effective of the simpler techniques and well worth >developing. Last nights results are very encouraging. Hello group, Laurie had been busy in 'time optimizing' DFCW, mainly by reducing the 'idle' gaps. At the very slow speeds used these days for TA tests one can indeed win a fair ammount of time by avoiding idle times. The main function of the DFCW gaps is to improve the readability of DFCW in case of a series of dashes or dots. Or otherwise said, it is some kind of 'time synchronisation'. This 'time synchonisation' has proven to be usefull, mainly for the reason that at the RX side you otherwise had to guess when a dot or dash started and stopped. If the RX would know at what times the TX was keying this gaps wouldn't be nessecary ... At the dot lengths used in recent TA tests (30 to 120 seconds) it shouldn't be so difficult to get sufficient 'time synchronisation' between TX and RX : 1. Using DCF77 (or similar) and the appropriate software (such as provided by DL4YHF) one can set the PC clock with a 1/10 second accuracy. Even by setting the PC clock by hand an accuracy of better than 1 second can be achieved. So the PC's at both sides (TX and RX) can have their clock 'synchronized' at 1 second or better. 2. QRS (v3.05) allows you start keying on exact multiples of 30 seconds (or 1 minute, 2 minutes, 5 minutes etc...). Of course this only makes sense if you set the dotlength also at 30 seconds (or 1 minute etc..). So the TX can be 'time synchronized'. 3. If Alberto could adapt ARGO and let the 'time markers' also appear on exact multiples of 30 seconds (or 1 minute etc..) and eventually replace the 'time ticks' at the bottom by thin vertical lines (over the entire window) then the RX would also have the required 'time synchronisation' : 'key up' or 'key down' of the TX would be at the same time when a 'time marker' appears on the ARGO screen. Result : no more need for time gaps (what should be a 20-25% time saving). 73, Rik ON7YD