Return-Path: Received: (qmail 350 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 00:46:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 00:46:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 14432 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 00:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 00:46:52 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14YH7W-00084I-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:39:02 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.16]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14YH7U-00084D-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:39:00 +0000 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.com by mailout00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14YH7C-0003ZB-04; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:38:42 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from (087321565-0001@[217.2.64.14]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14YH76-07vfRgC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:38:36 +0100 From: "Hans-Joachim Brandt" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3.0.1.16.20010228102047.2cdfe722@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Icom IC-746 on LF X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:38:36 +0100 Message-ID: <14YH76-07vfRgC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 087321565-0001@t-dialin.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear all, concerning the beginning of LF amateur operation in Germany I must confess that a very detailed description of the equipment used has never been published but I think that the contribution below by ON7YD should be corrected: Just before the Ham Radio Fair at the end of June 1997 at Friedrichshafen our administration had isssued two provisional licences for DA0LF (Peter Bobek, DJ8WL) and DA0VLF (Dr. Hartmut Buettig, DL1VDL, DARC HF manager) for a transmitter power of 100 watts (now we still have 20 watts nominal only). Time for preparations were very short, nobody could even think of a 100 watts PA. For DA0LF Peter Bobek employed his Hagenuk receiver and exciter with an output of 200 mW to a random wire. For DA0VLF "Hardy" Buettig had prepared a 20 watts PA and a loop aerial, but could not contribute anything for receive and for driving his PA. Therefore he was very glad that I could supply him with a passive LF converter to 14 MHz (then used with a TS-50 behind, showing 14.136.6 on the dial) and a crystal mixer exciter which produced just 3 watts output when combinded with Hardy's PA. Coupling between the random wire and the LF loop even within the same exhibition hall was rather poor, but a few meters of wire connected to the loop did not detune it but improved reception on both sides considerably. RST had been about 579. At the stand of the DARC HF referate a lot of visitors took the chance to have a first qso on LF and to receive a special QSL card. I myself could not travel to Friedrichshaven that year, because my third son had decided to marry just on Friday of that weekend! In another cq-DL article (5/1998) Peter Bobek reported that to increase his LF power to 50 watts for his long-range qrss tests he had used a push-pull power amplifier with two MRF454 employing "completely inadequate cores for LF". This may have been the PA needing more cooling for the output transformer than for the transistors. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB Rik Strobbe schrieb: > Hello group, > > Most HF-rigs have a "push-pull" PA that has an input and output > transformer. It are most likely these transformers that determine the lower > frequency limit. > I believe to have read an article in CQ-DL about the first 136kHz > transmissions between DA0LF and DA0VLF in Friedrichshafen (1997 ?). One of > the stations used a 100W HF push-pull PA to get 20W on 136kHz and they > needed a fan, not to cool the transistor but to cool the output > transformer. So even if you get your HF rig running on 136kHz I suggest to > limit the output to a few Watt in order to avoid a 'meltdown' of the output > transformer. > > 73, Rik ON7YD > > > At 08:43 28/02/01 -0000, you wrote: > >I don't know those particular mods, but my IC746 was supplied (quite > >intentionally) with all band transmit capability. However, the > >transmitter is still inhibited when trying to operate below 1.5MHz as > >the PA cannot cope below this frequency. Presumably the MARS mods you > >mention only require transmission at a few other HF freqs so the 100kHz > >lower limit could be a misunderstanding / typo on the authors part. > > > >The firm supplying it told me in no uncertain terms that the guarantee > >was only valid for transmission in the amateur bands, but Icom confirmed > >the rig is quite happy transmitting over the whole HF spectrum, but > >trouble would come if trying to transmit in the 30 - 45MHz region as it > >would still be trying to use the 30MHz low pass output filter. Also VHF > >transmission much outside 140-150MHz would cause problems, again due to > >the output filter. > > > >Andy > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jonathan Jesse [mailto:w1jhj@netzero.net] > >> Sent: 2001-02-27 18:43 > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; lowfer@qth.net > >> Subject: LF: Icom IC-746 on LF > >> > >> > >> > >> While surfing around the "net" for specifications on Icom's > >> IC-746 HF/VHF > >> transceiver, I found a modification to open the transmit > >> capabilities (so > >> called MARS/CAP mod). Reading on, I found that the author > >> stated that this > >> mod will open the transmit from 100khz to 60mhg. 100khz? > >> Has anyone tried > >> and or confirmed this? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jon W1JHJ > >> Jon > >> W1JHJ > >> Plymouth, MA > >> FN41qw > >> http://geocities.com/ws1k.rm > >> > >> Shop online without a credit card > >> http://www.rocketcash.com > >> RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary > >> > > > > > >-- > >The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence > >is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). > >For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, > >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is > >prohibited and may be unlawful. > > > > >