Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12306 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 01:46:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 01:46:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 18494 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 01:46:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 01:46:40 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14bBsV-0005pJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:39:35 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.15]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14bBsT-0005pE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:39:34 +0000 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.178.157]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010309013845.GUEX12559245.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:38:45 +1300 Message-ID: <008b01c0a83a$a18b3bc0$5cb21bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3715.200103081328@gemini> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Transcontinental modes - what next? Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:43:58 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear James and LF Group, Your perception of being limited to some 100 Hz of overall bandwidth for transcontinental LF work is unlikely to be the case in other continents. Down here we have 165 - 190 kHz, and can even have LF SSB nets, and they work fine. Limitation on emission bandwidth is probably the SWR bandwidth of a typical backyard antenna, and nobody here who has tried SSB has had a problem. For digital modes, Shannon's Law is not limited to slow symbol rate, even if the net recovered data is slow rate. I still do not believe there needs to be an arbitrary cap of 10 Hz on digital mode emission bandwidth. If someone can come up with a cunning scheme that uses say 50 Hz bandwidth, then it why not use it? Cheers, Bob ZL2CA