Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17259 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 10:09:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 10:09:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 12575 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 10:09:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 10:09:27 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14aalE-0001t5-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:01:36 +0000 Received: from amersham.mail.uk.easynet.net ([195.40.1.45]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14aalC-0001t0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:01:34 +0000 Received: from ericadodd (tnt-18-142.easynet.co.uk [212.134.224.142]) by amersham.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DDC8517D7C for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000701c0a6ee$22c46f20$8ee086d4@ericadodd> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <14313.200103061746@gemini> Subject: LF: Re: Transatlantic modes - what next? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:55:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Jim said: > The QRSS modes easily meet 2 and 3; in order to meet 1, a dot > length of about 7 seconds maximum would be required. With the > best possible conditions, I guess several stations might manage > transatlantic QSOs with these dot lengths. However, it would > probably not be enough to reach the more inland parts of Canada, > or the USA and further afield. With the existing technology, as Jim says, two way transatlantic contacts have been shown to be possible with relatively short dot periods. The secret is to monitor LF conditions and then choose appropriate dot periods. With the VE1ZZ/VE1ZJ/G3LDO QSO, VE1ZZ used 3 second dots because he was using a relatively high erp, while I allocated myself (in the first instance) 10 second dots. In the event this worked so there was no need for me to increase the dot period. This method of optimum dot period selection can be used to optimise the QSO time so that it can be contained within a peak of good LF conditions. I think we got it right because our QSO lasted around 50 minutes. However, even with the 20w erp or so that VE1ZZ is using we had to wait for a couple of days before we could make our reverse crossband 136/80m contact on the 21/2. This goes to show that LF conditions are everything and that close liaison between the operators taking part in any tests is essential. I acknowledge that the QRSS coding is primitive but it has the advantage of simplicity and has shown itself to be successful. It will be interesting to see how things change now that the WOLF is at the door. Regards, Peter, G3LDO