Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13930 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 10:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 10:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 728 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 10:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 10:32:52 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14PMGe-00076N-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:19:36 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14PMGd-00076I-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:19:35 +0000 Received: from [62.7.22.194] (helo=presario1920) by protactinium with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14PMGO-0003Cn-00; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:19:20 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: "Ko Versteeg" , rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "Andre' Kesteloot" Subject: LF: RE: Organization: NL9222 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:20:54 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: <200102031456.PAA23427@smtp.wanadoo.nl> Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Ko, my aplogies for not replying earlier to your enquiry that Andre' had separately brought to my attention. I have just looked at the rules that RSGB, DARC and AMRAD agreed. The key paragraphs are: 1. An Award will be issued to recognise the first European amateur or SWL to receive either a USA or a Canadian amateur station operating at 136 kHz once the band is allocated to the Amateur Radio Service in either country. 2. An Award will also be issued for the first USA station and another Award for the first Canadian station to receive a European amateur 136 kHz station. We purposely spelt out in para 1 that it was open to SWLs, and intended that in the second paragraph the station could either be licenced to transmit or be a SWL station. The only question that needs answering is whether you received the VA station prior to anyone else in EU. I didn't think that the intent of the award was to issue an award to the first licenced amateur and another award to the first SWL. There has been some experimentation and operating done by amateurs whether or not they are licenced. In my mind there is no distinction as there is plenty to be done whether or not one is able to transmit. I would be happy to discuss your claim via direct e-mail, rather than via the list-server. We will need the date and time that your received the station. We can then check whether this was indeed the first occurrence in EU. Apologies and 73 John G3WKL RSGB HF Committee -----Original Message----- From: majordom@post.thorcom.com [mailto:majordom@post.thorcom.com]On Behalf Of Ko Versteeg Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 14:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Organization: NL9222 Dexter, Laurie.. Congratulations on making it across ( more than once ) I hope it will be rewarded properly this time.. I inquired once for the litlle i did (1st swl: PA - VA) as just an swl but never ever got any response to it, not even a denial What a way to encourage newcomers to 136k, perhaps swl's are more useless on this band than i thought! Good luck, Ko Versteeg, NL9222.