Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16935 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 02:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 02:25:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9602 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2001 02:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 12 Feb 2001 02:24:59 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14S8YH-0000p0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:17:17 +0000 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14S8YG-0000ot-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:17:16 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id l.94.ffdecc5 (16336) for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:16:15 -0500 (EST) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <94.ffdecc5.27b8a16f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:16:15 EST Subject: LF: Very large adaptive rx array To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 70 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi group, is there more you can do with that CW carrier-component than simply detect the presence of a signal without being able to decode it? Well, we could use it to guide a large adaptive array to regain the data rate: - 100 receivers in different locations across Europe record audio files of a highly desired DX-station transmitting 3 s qrss, buried -10 dB in the noise, - offline, we extract the frequency offset and phase of the DX carrier components in each file using low bandwidth (e.g. 3 mHz). We also estimate their signal-to-noise ratios; - using this information as a phase reference, we convert each file to baseband (like in a synchronous AM-detector), - then add up the baseband data from all files, weighted by their SNR. Using the carriers as pilots, we effectively have focused our large sparse array on a small area around the transmitter, gaining some 20 dB in signal to noise ratio, - and we finally extract the information at full data rate in its original 0.3 Hz bandwidth, saving a factor of 100 in time and transmitted energy. Just a thought after a glass of wine, or maybe good for something? 73s de Markus, DF6NM