Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6704 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 20:30:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 20:30:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6022 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 20:30:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 20:30:34 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14VJM6-0007wV-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:25:50 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from jaws.cisco.com ([198.135.0.150] helo=cisco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14VJM5-0007wQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:25:49 +0000 Received: from virgin.net (uxb-dhcp-198-135-1-192.cisco.com [198.135.1.192]) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21380 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:25:00 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3A92D20F.21E2D49F@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:22:40 +0000 From: "Stewart Bryant" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: TR QSO References: <3A92A910.108E46E9@netscapeonline.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > > Others involved in amateur radio and especially LF might like to express > an opinion about what constitutes a valid qso. Since the purpose of the QSO is to demonstrate that a communications link was established between a pair of stations, isn't a QSO defined as the unambiguous bilateral exchange of callsign and a single piece of unique information. The important property of the unique information is that it must not be exchanged on the out-of-band link (ie Internet, HF calling frequency etc). Normally the unique information is the signal report in the appropriate format for the mode. I do not think that any time limit is appropriate, nor do I think that it needs to be exchanged in one go. In normal operating (for example VHF contests) it is quite common to piece together the call over a number of overs, and to correct locator information from monitoring the other station later on when there is less QSB. Thus in current VHF practise a contact may be scored which in effect took 24 hrs. What is important is that the unique information is unambiguously exchanged on the band in question. I do not think that it is important that the unique info is a signal report, in fact it would be a much better test if it were a set of random numbers. 73 Stewart G3YSX