Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23154 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 15:02:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 15:02:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12068 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2001 15:02:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 19 Feb 2001 15:02:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Urjo-0006vR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:56:28 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from d06lmsgate.uk.ibm.com ([195.212.29.1]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Urji-0006vB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:56:25 +0000 Received: from d06relay01.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06relay01.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.166.84.147]) by d06lmsgate.uk.ibm.COM (1.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA165010 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:39:05 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from usa.net (ss2.bld.socks.ibm.com [9.14.4.67]) by d06relay01.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.8.8m3/NCO v4.95) with ESMTP id OAA253992 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:54:45 GMT Message-ID: <3A913383.BE5BF534@usa.net> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:53:55 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: Another code References: <01C09A51.2D7E6320.g4jnt@thersgb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Andy talbot wrote: > [snip] > More seriously, we can go on inventing new signalling methods and alphabets > ad-infinitum. But we'll always come up against Shannon's law eventually. > There is an absolutely fundamental limit to the amount of information that > can be sent over a noisy channel in a given bandwidth. > [snip] Odd as it may seem, there is a man (a self-taught one, I am afraid) claiming the impossible with his VMSK signalling scheme. Don't want to spoil your fun by revealing here what he is veemently convinced to be able to achieve. For an interesting reading, go here : http://www.vmsk.org and for a clearly exposed debunking by Phil Karn, KA9Q, that many of you know by fame, go here : http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/papers/vmsk/index.html 73 Alberto I2PHD