Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18755 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 11:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 11:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4107 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2001 11:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 15 Feb 2001 11:26:16 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14TMOj-0008IS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:16:29 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [213.2.16.106] (helo=rsgb.org.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14TMOe-0008IN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:16:25 +0000 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.5.R) for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:01:08 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:01:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: LDO > ZJ > ZZ a two-way? Message-ID: <3A8BB6F2.29026.5F1FEE@localhost> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I have been giving some thought to whether I personally regard the recent G3LDO/VE1ZJ/VE1ZZ QSO to be a two-way. My initial reaction was to say that because there was a relay station that did more than just relay - he decoded the spectrogram - this did not constitute a two-way with remote receive. I still think it was not a two-way between VE1ZZ and G3LDO, but was it a two-way transatlantic QSO? There was no 'assistance' on either of the transatlantic paths, only when it reached VE, and the required callsigns and previously unknown information (report) crossed the Atlantic in both directions, and ended up with the same two stations. I think Peter, John and Jack can claim the first two-way, though they have not yet. This looks like it might be an interesting question for the Bobek Trophy adjudicators in RSGB (not me), DARC and AMRAD. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.lf.thersgb.net