Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21215 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 09:53:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 09:53:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 29498 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 09:53:43 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 09:53:43 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14V9DO-0004Gn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:36:10 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14V9DM-0004Gh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:36:08 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA207058 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:35:48 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010220103543.2cffb61a@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:35:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: LF: valid QSO or not ? In-reply-to: <00c301c09b19$0b8ab020$1601a8c0@maly.gmccz.cz.gmc.net> References: <3A91F454.4F23F726@ns.sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Maybe now the moment has come that the committee of the 'Peter Bobek Award' takes a clear desicion under what circumstances a QSO on 136kHz is valid (for the award). I believe that the 3 societies involved (AMRAD, DARC and RSGB) have sufficient expertise to make a valid decision, taking into account the 'rules' that are used so far in other weak signal domains (EME, MS) and the specific circumstances of the longwave ham band. After the recent QSO's of G3LDO, VE1ZZ/ZJ, VA3LK and G3AQC it is most likely that more transatlantic contacts will happen with the next time. If we have clear rules then : 1. those who are going for it will know in advance what they have to do 2. painfull discussions afterward will (hopefully) be avoided. It might be interesting to know that there is a similar chalenge on 144MHz, the 'Brendan Trohpy', see http://www.irts.ie/brendan.htm 73, Rik ON7YD PS : it is my personal opinion that, if it is decided that the past performances are not considered valid QSO's, some recognition for those who have set these important steps in the right direction are in order. At 09:42 20/02/01 +0100, you wrote: >I hope the reflector is a place where everybody can say his word without >being afraid. I would burn myself into exhilaration to celebrate the first >2-way QSO, but the fact that it took so long prevents me from that. After a >big hesitation I must admit that I agree with John. >It doesn't mean that this QSO had no meaning. No doubt it is another step >forward. Congrats to both operators. > >73 Petr OK1FIG