Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13102 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 18:07:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 18:07:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 16964 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 18:07:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 18:07:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14WMTY-0005Yq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:57:52 +0000 Received: from imo-r13.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.67]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14WMTT-0005Yf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:57:47 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id l.23.7ce7177 (4329) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:56:50 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <23.7ce7177.27c7fe61@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:56:49 EST Subject: Re: LF: RE: ANTS: Higher L - higher ERP To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In a message dated 2/23/01 3:30:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be writes: << I believe that the 'basic rule' with an elevated loading coil is that the current remains constant from the bottom end (feeding point) up to the coil and will drop linear from the coil toward the end of the antenna. So if you have the coil at the top of the vertical section you will get a constant current over this section, the same that you would get with a infinite topload (that is Andy's theory in other words ..) >> That's a true enough rule of thumb, as far as it goes, but I'm doubtful of the "infinite topload" part. We're talking about electrically very short antennae with top loading by means of inverted-L or T configurations, or other tophat capacitance sections. The taper of the current distribution need not be all that significant to begin with, depending on the size of the top load section. The key point is, with the systems many experimenters appear to be using, it's not enough by itself to account for the dramatic apparent difference in performance when one elevates the loading coil. (In addition, even though you can resonate a system that has very small top capacitance and achieve a more constant current, the L/C ratio precludes the current from being the same as if it were a physically large top load. No free lunch, in other words.) You were perceptive in catching the current discrepancy. I neglected to caution that my current readings were relative, not calibrated. The "instrument" (it's a bit grandiose to call it that) was a toroid core transformer with a rectifier and DC microammeter that had at originally been calibrated at 50kHz. I believe it had to be overstating the current significantly, for I am certainly not one of the fortunate LowFERs who lives atop open patches of 30milliSiemens/m soil either. My best grounding efforts here have barely approached 90 ohms, so far as I can measure with a semi-accurate homebuilt impedance bridge. With 12v and 83ma into the final, 100ma or less would be the maximum likely current if the meter had been correct for absolute values. It did track well with changes to the collector voltage of the final, however, so I believe it was reasonably linear over the part of the scale where it was being used. Still, I'd love to see a reading in the multiple ampere range and to know it was real! 73, John