Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19133 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 17:54:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 17:54:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5108 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 17:57:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 17:57:14 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14PTKd-0000cD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:52:11 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from mozart.unetsul.com.br ([200.247.254.3]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14PTKZ-0000c8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:52:08 +0000 Received: from mailman.endymion.com (mozart.unetsul.com.br [200.247.254.3]) by mozart.unetsul.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA25610 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:52:50 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from py2pll@py.qsl.br) Message-ID: <200102041752.PAA25610@mozart.unetsul.com.br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: py2pll@py.qsl.br Subject: LF: 1 turn loop X other antennas Date: Sun, 4 Feb 101 17:52:50 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi all ... I took some readings using 3 different antennas and there's the results: # Antenna 1 - 1 turn copper loop, 12mm rod, octagon, 4.8m perimeter (1.2m "diameter") # Antenna 2 - 80 m inverted vee, apex at 30m high # Antenna 3 - ferrite loop, 10mm dia, 7.5 inch long, all extension covered by 26# magnetic wire, varactor tuned and MPF102 push-pull preamp. I'm trying to verify if I can use a single turn tuned copper loop instead the "n" turns thinner wire ones. Rejloop1, Rejloop3 and Antenna Optimizer gave more or less the same efficiency X tuning C X impedance for all loops. The 1 turn unit have a broadband step-up ferrite transformer (25 X 1/2 turn ratio) using some 1800 ui core, those box shaped built to remove EMI from a 25 way computer flat cable (1.5 inch long X 1.5 inch wide X 1/2 inch high). So this xformer is able to handle 0,0XX ohm on its primary (a 1 inch wide copper stripe). I need to make some measurements on it to be shure about this. A local NDB was used as signal source, on 260Khz. The "dBmV" reading is relative audio out from my receiver (a ITT Mackay Marine 3026). The dBu readings came from the S Meter. For audio readings, AGC = off. So: # Loop + xformer, tuned (like the isoloop) = 0dBmV (18dBu) # Loop + xformer, un-tuned, capacitor shorted = -7dBmV (12dBu) # Loop w/o xformer, feedpoint un-tuned straight to 50 ohm feeder = - 22dBmV (5dBu) # Loop w/o xformer, feedpoint tuned straight to 50 ohm feeder = -8dBmV (14dBu) # 80m dipole = +2dBmV (20dBu) # Ferrite rod = (+15dBu) I'll repeat those readings on a 4m diameter aluminum loop, 17mm tube, as soon as I finish my remotely controlled capacitor decade circuit (1nf steps from 0 to 350nf). Seems that the 1 turn solution will perform well - and the best part - no pre-amp, but the decade C :o( 73 Marcus, PY2PLL(Base) / PY3CRX (Mobile) GG66rf - S. B. do Campo - SP hampage => http://py.qsl.br e-mail => py2pll@py.qsl.br Active from DC to 24GHz