Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15205 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 19:37:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 19:37:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 17216 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 19:37:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 19:37:53 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Vez4-00077u-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:31:30 +0000 Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au ([203.26.10.16]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Vez0-00077p-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:31:26 +0000 Received: from steve (ppp182.dyn154.pacific.net.au [210.23.154.182]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA30236 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 06:31:06 +1100 Message-ID: <010101c09c3d$795c3cc0$0301a8c0@steve> From: "Steve Olney" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000201c09c33$feb1bc60$784e7ad5@default> Subject: LF: Re: Reflector split?...please No. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 06:35:28 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: G'day All, Watching all the pushing and shoving on this reflector has also made me think of the splitting issue. My two cents worth (not worth much in Australian pesos at the moment ;-) are as follows:- 1. Using markers in the subject line like [QRSS] etc, to filter out sounds like a good idea. There a PIC reflector somewhere that uses this idea and I thought that this would be good. In practice it was annoying as there were many posts to inappropriate sections because you rely on the correct classification by someone else which may not line up with your definitions. I found that I was looking at the other "non-relevant sections" just make sure you weren't missing something. That defeated the whole purpose for me. Why not keep the present scheme but just clearly identify what you are addressing in the subject line ? The disadvantage of both approaches is that you are still downloading a lot of stuff that perhaps you don't want but are paying for in downloading costs. 2. The point that we need an entry point for beginners and the mass of high tech stuff would not doubt be discouraging for many is a strong one. Why don't we all agree on some common reflector site just for LF DSP ? We could move all our high tech traffic to the selected reflector and take the load off this one. There is then nothing stopping people from subscribing to what they want (both if they want). Those who don't want the high tech DSP stuff could avoid it - those who want both can subscribe to both. The only plea I would make is to *not* engage in forwarding/cross-posting as this is especially annoying. If you want to make sure nothing is missed then a periodic reminder on each reflector of the existence of the other would suffice. This allows the reader to decide what ends up in their mailbox. Things like bandplans could still be agreed on and distributed. Bandplans were in place long before the Internet. Suitable sites could be yahoo (they have taken over egroups and now require some intrusive questions to be answered), qsl.net, the Amrad reflector, or even the down-under ZL/VK group (although that is yahoo). The LowFer reflector is also available and there is an atmosphere of innovation present amongst its denizens. Why don't we agree on one site - publicise periodically where it is and make the move ? Subscribe to one or the other or both and get what you want. There is no perfect solution but there has to be a better way than spending time beating each other over the head about definitions and fine "legal" points. Better to be operating and experimenting !!!! 73s Steve Olney (VK2ZTO/AXSO - QF56IK : Lat -33 34 07, Long +150 44 40) ============================================= HomePage URLs: http://www.qsl.net/vk2zto http://www.zeta.org.au/~ollaneg Containing:- ULF, ELF, VLF & LF Experimentation InfraSonic Experimentation Laser Comms DX Amateur Radio Astronomy =============================================