Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20137 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 13:35:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 13:35:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2981 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 13:38:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 13:38:15 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14QrBA-0004e4-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 13:32:08 +0000 Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.195.175]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14QrB7-0004dz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 13:32:06 +0000 Received: from modem-115.orange-shoulder-tang.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.42.243] helo=default) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14QrAq-0005lj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 13:31:49 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c091d3$8bb81d40$d3d8883e@default> From: "Martin Evans" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Loran Lines. Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:30:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello everyone. A simple query to give us all a rest from the hi-tech stuff. I've been listening on 137 for a year or so and in that time I have NEVER seen any Loran lines. People tell me that if I can't see them, I should get myself a decent receiver. I receive all the usual stuff OK, though I can't get any amateur signals outside UK/EI. I am using a TS950 and an untuned 30m horizontal wire. The noise level increases appreciably when I connect the antenna to the rig, which suggests to me that the receiver sensitivity isn't a problem. I have assumed that my problem is high local noise, so when the opportunity arose recently, I went up into the Brecon Beacons National Park with a battery-powered Lowe HF150 and my laptop. Connecting the receiver to a convenient wire fence I received G3OLB as a whacking great signal- but no Loran! This was in a location at least 5km from the nearest mains electricity of any kind and the background on spectrogram was beautifully clean. So what's what? Should I really be seeing Loran lines or are there other people in Western Europe for whom the Loran is just a name? Help Please! Martin Evans GW3UCJ. Located in the Swansea Valley in South Wales.