Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22084 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 18:36:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 18:36:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17505 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 18:36:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 18:36:41 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Ve2V-0006lz-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:30:59 +0000 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.92]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Ve2R-0006lu-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:30:56 +0000 Received: from [213.122.78.120] (helo=default) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14Ve29-0005I8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:30:37 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c09c33$feb1bc60$784e7ad5@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Subject: LF: Reflector split?...please No. Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:52:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, I have been considering this thorny topic for some time as it was obvious that it would be raised sooner or later. Personally I want to see all that is written about LF, but being aware of the potential problem, I had started to distribute some postings to a 'limited circle' to avoid swamping the reflector. I am aware that this cuts off a number of people who may also have been interested in the content. I decided the most useful approach was to examine what we hope to achieve with the reflector and personally what I have gained from it. Taking these in the reverse order :- I have no active LF stations within 70 to 100 miles of me. My first 12 months was fairly discouraging as few if any of the active stations used Packet Radio. The exception being John G4GVC who gave me a lot of encouagement and helpful suggestions. Progress was still slow. Then about 2 years ago I finally connected to the Internet and joined the reflector. This proved to be a major step forward in my understanding, and enjoyment. Some of my persistent questions raised the tired comment "we've been though all this before" But many of the stalwarts were willing to spend time and patience discussing ideas with me, and passing on the accumulated wisdom. My knowledge and the performance of my station improved steadily, but better still I had a ball. The atmosphere on LF reminded of the Radio Clubs I belonged to when I first got my ticket over 40 years ago. I would not like to deprive anyone about to join our ranks of that opportunity and that experience. This reflector has grown in strength and seems to have become a world-wide centre for those interested in LF. LF opens a whole world of different opportunities, and we must not prejudge what any new or prospective member may become interested in. It is intended, I believe, as a one-stop venue for the exchange of LF information of all categories, by participants at all stages of knowledge and development. Its greatest asset is its ability to bring new stations into the group and encourage their activity. (example Rich OM2TW and Marc F6CNI, Brian CT1DRP and many others ) when local conditions are not always favourable. It is clear as the number of adherents increases and the breadth of the technology used widens there will become more and more messages on the system. Splitting the reflector up into special interest groups is an option, but from my experience of the relevance of some subject lines to the message content, it might be even more confusing. It may be that some will resort to posting everting to all the 'sub-groups' rather than try to define which group is most relevant (as happends in a lot of the newsgroups). I also think we will all loose out. Propagation might interest a lot more than just those trying to bridge the Atlantic. Aerial discussions can get very "hi-tech" but they probably interest us all in some part. So defining watertight boundaries will be difficult. There are, however, one or two things we can do to reduce the message load. I suggest that we do not use the "Reply to All" button to send a personal comment, just because its easier than finding the personal address. When using the reply button to post to the group we should be cautious about repeating the whole message. I come across very frustrating messages on some other groups that are 3 words long (IF you can find them!) but have about 10kbytes of multiple repeated messages. It is not difficult to edit these down with the cursor and the delete key, before pressing the send button. I suggest then we use the facility of filtering that I think Stewart mentioned. This requires 3 or 4 well defined keywords...maybe in capitals...that could be used in the subject field. This would allow anyone not interested in say QRSS to avoid wasting time downloading message about that topic. Also "button" replies would automatically carry the keyword, so keeping the threads together. The advantage is it would still allow these messages to be browsed by those with maybe only a peripheral interest, whilst not requiring them to keep a subscription open to 3 or 4 groups. I believe it is possible to have a help page specific to the reflector, if so, this could be edited to ensure that the details were readily available for new recruits, without them feeling they had to ask a 'silly question'. Above all, and as with Amateur Radio in general, variety of interest is our strength, and should not divide us. I appologise for the length of the message but I feel it important we consider the implications of splitting it up because, once done, it is a one-way path. Cheers de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com