Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19524 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 01:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 01:20:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9378 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 01:24:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 01:24:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14MgUI-0005SZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:18:38 +0000 Received: from imo-r11.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.65]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14MgUH-0005SU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:18:37 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id l.a4.f3d8d81 (16790) for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:17:59 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:17:59 EST Subject: Re: LF: RE: Final update on FM 19kHz pilot tones To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In a message dated 1/25/01 4:01:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, ryeg@sitestar.net writes: << I can remember in the early days of TV here in the states that we would occasionally see such things --- when they were not synched. Now you just see a stable ghost of the 'interfering' station in the background. >> This may be true in some major television markets, but it is not the case nationwide. Most television stations are not synched to anything but a local reference oscillator, usually a TCXO. This is a big improvement over the situation in the 1960s and early 70s, but it is not nearly as good as that period in the late 70s to early 80s when all networks' atomic-referenced sync pulses were passed directly by local stations. Back then, it was literally true that "ghost" sync bars would stand still at the same position day after day. (In locations where it was possible to overlay the video from three stations carrying the same network program, it was great fun to try to deduce either the spacing between the stations or one's own position relative to them.) Now, frame synchronizers re-sync incoming network signals, the output of videotape machines, and all other sources to the local studio reference. The network owned-and-operated stations may use atomic standards or GPS-based references, but most others don't. Sync drift is generally very slow, but it does occur in most of the country. 73, John