Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29852 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 10:17:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 10:17:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 6292 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 10:11:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 10:11:21 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14M5iW-0002fe-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:02:52 +0000 Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14M5iS-0002fZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:02:49 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id KAA15042; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:04:05 GMT Received: (qmail 10109 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 10:56:05 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 10:56:05 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id KAA23957; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:47:15 GMT Received: from unknown(10.71.64.31) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma023900; Fri, 26 Jan 01 10:46:44 GMT Received: from FRN-MAIL-3.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:05:29 +0000 Received: by frn-mail-3.dera.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:01:53 -0000 Message-ID: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F0D7567@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: VA3LK seen in ON Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:02:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Frequency cal for last nights transmission, M0BMU still ~2.99 and another strong signal I had assumed was Laurie but perhaps was someone else, on ~3.78(5) (measurement readout jumps from 78 to 79). If it was you Laurie, your stability has infinitely improved ! ============= Re Rik's suggestions :- Why keep to two frequencies just so it looks like morse cod ? If we really feel we HAVE to keep to visual modes using Soundcards rather than using the superior capabilities given by machine decoding, how about several levels of frequency shift in say 1Hz and just learn a new visual code. Just as an example of a visual code, 7 frequency levels, using two sucessive symbols per character gives potential for 49 different symbols, enough for letters numbers and a few punctuation. There would be no need to turn off the Tx for any symbol, as a space could be coded as a character, thus removing ambiguities with dots and noise spikes. That will give those who feel the need to learn a code by rote once the CW test is abolished something to feel they've succeeded. I believe there were a few operators in days gone by who could even read RTTY and Piccolo signals by ear. Perhaps the Morse test could be replaced by a Dual-7-Frequency test for an extra class of licence. (It is Friday :-) Andy G4JNT ============== > More general : it seems that it is possible to cross the pond with stations > running less than 1W ERP (believe that BMU and AQC are abt 400-500mW) but > it needs rather long dotlengths (1 minute). So we want to take the next > step to 2-way communication we might need a more 'time efficient' mode than > straight morse code. > DFCW is about 3 times faster but it needs 2 frequencies, a shift of 0.1Hz > would be sufficient. More complicated 'coding' using multiple frequencies > could even speed up things more, using 4 frequencies we could code 64 > characters in 3 'dots'. > Based on the experience that a 'very basic' QRSS QSO takes about 20 minutes > at 3 sec. dotlength this would mean over 6 hours at 1 minute dotlength. > With DFCW this could be reduced to about 2 hours, seems acceptable to me. > Advantage of DFCW over more complicated codes is that it is 'readable' on > screen if you know morse code. > > 73, Rik > > > -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.