Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22287 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 09:15:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 09:15:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 17426 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 09:10:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 09:10:20 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14H07G-0004UB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:03:22 +0000 Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14H07F-0004U6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:03:21 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id JAA23721; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:04:16 GMT Received: (qmail 5959 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 09:57:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 09:57:10 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id JAA25521; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:49:29 GMT Received: from unknown(10.71.64.31) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma025407; Fri, 12 Jan 01 09:48:27 GMT Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:04:54 +0000 Received: by frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:02:00 -0000 Message-ID: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F0D750A@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE:Rugby site Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:02:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Allegedly and without predjudice, as long as certain people want to exist safely underneath the sea, Rugby and Criggion will remain. The phase stabilisation Alan mentions allows, amongst other things, the remote monitoring of transmitter health from remote sites . Who said that ?! :-|| According to Tom Clancy, in "The Hunt for Red October" there is a transmission of coded groups to very deep operating "Boomers" at a data rate that appears to be in the region of a bit per second (one minute per message). The groups would encode messages such as "Come to the surface immediately for a satellite transmission", or "Fire !". If it is not all a fiction invented by an author with a large collection of friends working at interesting places. Speculatively of course, this would be at a frequency in the 60 - 170Hz region - which makes even amateur 9kHz experiments seem tame. It is stated that in the US there are lines looking like old fashioned telegraph wires many hundreds (1000s ?) of km long carrying signals that make fences spark. At these frequencies a ground loop antenna is the only realistic sort of antenna that could be made to operate with reasonable efficiency and long low slung wires which wouldn't have to even be grounded at the far end if long enough would form just such an antenna - Some people have suggested - and this is no sxcrxt - that the UK tried some propagation tests at ULF (Ultra Low Frequency, 30 - 300Hz or shold this be SLF) in the 1960s, but decided we didn't need the deep operations around the world this would allow. I was told once (by someone long retired from the business) that there were ideas to use the third rail of the railway network to form the antenna for a ULF transmission, others proposed the National Grid but the idea of a multiplexer to separate 50Hz from the transmitting freq (at say 100 Hz) would be 'interesting' Anon G^JN* > If anyone can arrange a visit to Rugby Radio Station before > it all goes the > same way I am sure there would be plenty of takers. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.