Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24640 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2001 09:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 10 Jan 2001 09:20:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16467 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2001 09:24:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 10 Jan 2001 09:24:07 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14GHO1-0008WS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:17:41 +0000 Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14GHNz-0008WN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:17:39 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id JAA31498; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:18:32 GMT Received: (qmail 5836 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2001 10:11:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 10 Jan 2001 10:11:34 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id KAA22894; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:04:04 GMT Received: from unknown(10.71.64.31) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma022012; Wed, 10 Jan 01 10:02:08 GMT Received: from FRN-MAIL-3.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:04:24 +0000 Received: by frn-mail-3.dera.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:01:41 -0000 Message-ID: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F0D74F9@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE:ARGO Build 113.]and propagation monitoring Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:01:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Ko Versteg NL9222 stores some of it on his website, but can't remember if he has the latest ultra narrow band software. Most of the time I only need two progs for the 56002 itself. One, called DECIM01.CLD, mixes the audio frequency with a commandable local oscillator anywhere in the range 0 to 3.2kHz to generate I/Q channels at zero frequency then filters and decimates by a commandable factor to 4000 / 2000 / 1000 / 500 / 250 or 125 Hz sampling rate with a bandwidth of 0.8 times Fs, then outputs the resulting samples at this rate to the serial port. Commands to set centre freq and decimation are sent to the 56002EVM via the serial port. The PC then uses these 16 bit Zero Frequency I/Q samples for FFTs, phase plots etc. The second prog, DECIM03.CLD, adds another /64 stage of decimation within the EVM to give output data sampled at 62.5 / 31.25 / 15.626 / 7.8 / 3.9 and 1.95 Hz. (I would like to combine both into one EVM routine but can't be bothered !) The ultra narrow band monitoring software uses this lowest data rate from the EVM, then performs yet another decimation and filterieng operation, now within the PC, again at a commandable factor up to 64 times to give a sampling rate that can go down to 0.03Hz. A 256 point FFT on this gives 0.0002Hz resolution but down at this level, the raw I/Q data is better saved to disk for later analysis. The frequency accuracy of the whole proces is that dictated by the receiver (locked to a master reference) and the 8kHz sampling within the EVM which could be locked to the reference but isn't. What a pity that none of the VA/VE stations transmitting can maintain the sort of accuracy needed by this. The ability to make vector measurements of absolute phase over hours in mHz bandwidth would reveal infinitely more about LF long distance propagation than just power measurement alone. For instance, it would reveal directly any Doppler shifted components, be able to separate out ground and skywave components and show whether fading or enhancements are caused by multipath or changing ionospheric conditions. Andy G4JNT >From I2PHD > Then you could go in the milliHz region, as by example Andy > does with his > EVM56002 (I have one, where can I download your software > from, Andy ?), -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.