Return-Path: Received: (qmail 156 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 14:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 14:07:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12715 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 14:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 14:10:02 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14JFcW-0001Hg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:00:56 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [213.2.16.106] (helo=rsgb.org.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14JFcU-0001HU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:00:55 +0000 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.5.R) for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:00:27 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:00:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Dipole antenna at LF Message-ID: <3A66F6F9.12573.101AF15@localhost> In-reply-to: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F0D7529@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: G4JNT wrote: > Someone must have already tried this, but how effective would a (say) > 100m long dipole laid down a chalk hill be ? Isn't limestone also the > same material as chalk, Are there any CREG members reading this who > know about conductivity of rocks? Chalk is a very poor conductor, even > when wet. A 4m earthing rod driven into the top of Portsdown Hill on > the South coast of the UK in an attempt to make an RF ground measured > 120 ohms to mains Earth - attempt abandoned in favour of a dipole ! I tried something like this in GW in the early days of 73khz but it was very poor. Rock may be a poor conductor but it still appears to absorb most of the RF. And it wasn't just that my antenna was horizontal as in fact it went up a steep hillside at some 30 degrees. I tried it again when trying to work MI0AYZ as a deperate attempt when my kite failed to fly - it was still poor. Worked fine on receive, though. Depressing as it may be, Marconi got it right 100 years ago and we have failed to improve on his findings. There must be another magic antenna out there somewhere but that isn't it. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.lf.thersgb.net