Return-Path: Received: (qmail 914 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2001 10:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2001 10:00:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23444 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2001 10:04:28 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 30 Jan 2001 10:04:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14NXXK-0004Ot-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:57:18 +0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14NXXI-0004On-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:57:17 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA77794 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:57:01 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010130114756.310fbbd2@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:47:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Earth Rods / Spectrograms In-reply-to: <17550.200101291220@gemini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >I found an easy way to drive in earth rods made from copper water >pipe is like this: I found a steel rod of a slightly bigger diameter than >the pipe, put a point on the end, and hammered it in to the ground. >When it is in deep enough, it can be pulled out, and the copper pipe >tapped into the hole. When driving the steel rod, it helps to pull it >out occasionally, and pour some soapy water into the hole. This >makes it easier to drive in, and easier to get the rod out >afterwards. You need to fix something to the rod to hold on to when >you are pulling it out. I used "Mole grips". Al alternative to 'brute force' to get a pipe in the ground is to use water : connect one end to a garden hose, put the pipe vertical (with the garden hose end up) and let the water flow. The pipe will gently slide into the ground, unles you have a very 'rocky' ground. Reduce the water flow for when you get the last meter in the ground and secure the pipe for some days (weeks) to avoid a 'China syndrome'. For a picture of this procedure have a look at : http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136ant.htm#Radials BTW : if prefer galvanized iron pipes, if you have 'acid soil' it will 'eat' your copper pipe. 73, Rik ON7YD