Return-Path: Received: (qmail 496 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2001 09:27:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Jan 2001 09:27:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 6662 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2001 09:22:18 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 8 Jan 2001 09:22:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14FYM5-0004Qp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:12:41 +0000 Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14FYM3-0004Qk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:12:40 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA1140102 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:12:30 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010108110356.25ef226e@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:03:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: LF Spurious signal on south coast In-reply-to: <000101c0771f$8ac917a0$f3bf883e@lvm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >It is very stable and crude DF checks with a loop put it arriving north or >south Hi Laurie, There is a rather easy way to find out wether it is north or south : 1. Take minimum bearing with a loop (or ferrite) antenna, with that you get 2 possible directions (opposite to each other) 2. Sum the signal from the loop with the signal from a small electric antenna (piece of wire). The small electric antenna has an omnidirectional pattern, while the loop has an 8-shaped pattern. If both are summed you get a cardioid pattern (because both lobes of the loop pattern are opposite in phase). The null and maximum of the cardioid are far too wide to do an accurate bearing, but it is good enough to determine which of the 2 directions (determined with the loop) is the good one. remarks : A. Remind that for step 2 you have to turn the loop 90 degrees (the nulls of the 8-shaped pattern are in right angles to the loop plane while the maximum/minimum of the cardioid pattern are in the loop plane). B. you get the best F/B ratio on the cardiod pattern when the signal from both antennas have (abou) the same strength). 73, Rik ON7YD