Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26871 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2001 23:28:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Jan 2001 23:28:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 18959 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2001 23:22:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 9 Jan 2001 23:22:47 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14G7z2-00063e-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 23:15:16 +0000 Received: from nwcst313.netaddress.usa.net ([204.68.23.58]) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14G7z1-00063Z-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 23:15:15 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (qmail 7931 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jan 2001 23:15:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010109231501.7930.qmail@nwcst313.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.58 by nwcst313 for [213.217.189.46] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.15A.01) on Tue Jan 9 23:15:01 GMT 2001 Date: 10 Jan 2001 00:15:01 MET From: "Alberto di Bene" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: [Re: LF: ARGO Build 113.] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.15A.01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: "Mike Dennison" wrote: This really is a nice piece of software. It is easy to run, is very sensitive and continues to run when you are working on another program in a foreground window. [snip] Mike, thanks for your nice words. What you call 'frequency error', and which I would call 'frequency uncertainty', is caused by the relative values of the sampling rate and the FFT size. In the full band view, the sampling rate is 11025 S/s, and the FFT size is 4096 samples. This gives a frequency resolution of 11025/4096 = 2.69 Hz (roughly). This is the uncertainty with which the frequency can be determined when in that mode. If you look at the peak display, you will see that it says : Peak at nnn.nn Hz +/- 2.69 Hz The +/- value is the uncertainty. For the other modes the values are different, but you get the idea. When you scroll up and down the scale, it may happen that the peak falls in one FFT bin or in the adjacent one. It's not a continous movement, but rather a step one. So it maybe that, for example, if you measure the mains hum picked up by a piece of wire, at the beginning of the scale you find that the peak is, let's say, at 49.9 Hz, and scrolling you find it at 50.2 Hz. This is not an error, it's just the consequence of what said above. To measure with great precision, it would be necessary an FFT length of several MegaSamples, with the inevitable long time of acquisition. Then you could go in the milliHz region, as by example Andy does with his EVM56002 (I have one, where can I download your software from, Andy ?), but be prepared to long waits between screen refreshes. To answer to John's question, to choose the 'magnitude squared' estimator, go to the action bar, select Mode, then Spectral Estimator, then Magnitude Squared. This is present only in build 113. 73 Alberto I2PHD ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1