Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16787 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2001 19:11:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jan 2001 19:11:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28227 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2001 19:14:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 23 Jan 2001 19:14:26 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L8n8-0002F9-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:07:42 +0000 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.92]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L8n3-0002F1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:07:37 +0000 Received: from [213.122.173.105] (helo=z0w6t5) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14L8mj-00065W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:07:20 +0000 Message-ID: <00c701c08570$19cef9c0$69ad7ad5@z0w6t5> From: "Bill Staples" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006001c08469$fbf5db00$bd9074d5@w8k3f0> <3A6DC98A.603583DD@alg.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: LF: Please more normal CW activity on Saturday and Sunday morning Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:08:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Steve Myself and some others in this area fully support your comments, I admit its a great achievement to make transatlantic but please enough is enough Gentlemen! give it a rest. regards Bill G0AKY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Rawlings" To: "LF Group" Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:12 PM to make Subject: Re: LF: Please more normal CW activity on Saturday and Sunday morning > Dick PA0SE wrote: > > > > Sometimes a fellow amateur tells me he would like to become > > active on LF and asks my advice. I tell him/her to buy The low > > frequency experimenters handbook and/or the older Source book > > and to read what has been published on LF in our magazine > > Electron. After handing out some tips on receiving invariably > > the question comes what the best times are to listen for a > > signal. My answer has always been "Saturday and Sunday > > morning". But I'm afraid that won't help the newcomer much > > anymore because there are hardly any signals to be heard > > nowadays. > I think that the golden days of LF are finished, and, today, I > would not advise anyone to waste their time building an LF > station. A couple of years ago we could all make QSOs on LF > using simple CW equipment - knowing that there were plenty of > courteous operators on the band - all ready to give us a report > and to provide encouragement. > > But the arrival of demon QRSS operators such as G3LDO has changed > all that. These days, CW operators have to do their best between > S9 + 20 dB QRSS signals sent by operators who have little or no > regard for other band users. With so much QRSS now taking place > within the normal CW segment of the band, 136 kHz is no longer a > suitable band for those wishing to make QSOs with simple > equipment. > > Today's QRSS operators are removing the opportunities for > experimentation that they themselves were enjoying just a couple > of years ago. I am not surprised that newcomers get fed up with > listening to strange, intermittent carriers on LF. > > > I accept that to bridge the Atlantic Ocean is much more > > challenging than a normal CW QSO within Europe but nevertheless > > I would like to hear some more traditional activity on Saturday > > and Sunday morning, as it was a year or more ago. > CW operators might return to 136 kHz if they knew that there was > a part of the band where they were not going to be QRMed by lid > operators. But, at the moment, this is looking unlikely: I'm > afraid that the unfortunate actions of our very own LF mentor has > set the scene for others throughout Europe to follow. > > In the past, I have always been keen to promote 136 kHz via my > web site. In the light of recent events, I feel compelled to > update my web pages to provide a more accurate picture of what > it's like to operate on LF from the UK these days. > > Regards to all, > Steve GW4ALG > >