Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26512 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2001 22:48:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 4 Jan 2001 22:48:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 12598 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2001 22:51:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 4 Jan 2001 22:51:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EJ7j-0002Dq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:44:43 +0000 Received: from carbon.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.92]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EJ7i-0002Dl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:44:42 +0000 Received: from [213.122.169.82] (helo=default) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14EJ7F-0007KQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:44:13 +0000 Message-ID: <00a601c0769f$d99d0d80$0748073e@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Rapid fading and QRS Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:55:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Jim, first is you scan through my graphs for one night when CFH went off you will find a plot of the noise on that channel. The noise is fairly consistent, with the RX settings I am using the noise at 2300z measures usually about 12dBu droping to 6 or sometimes 4 dBu in the morning period just after dawn. I have a complete plot for one night, but it may not have been loaded (see 15th Dec). But this is measured in a 300Hz bandwidth. Now remember that my measurements are made with a detector time-constant of 3 seconds and I take 6 samples with the ADC at 10 sec intervals and only plot the lowest one. This is to avoid the effects of static 'crashes'. As to the periods of the fading. A careful look at my plots shows a number of different periods. Some of the rapid fade periods are as little as 5 to 10 minute cycles, but they do tend to be of relatively shallow amplitude. One of my hypotheses was that the difference on the plots from different sites was due to the same 'fourier elements' of the plot were summed with different phase relationships at different sites. The other fortunate point is that the rapid fades do not occur in general when conditions are good or improving. I believe that these conditions are when the propagation is just beginning to recover from the after-effects of a particle injection from a CME or Coronal hole event. The 'after-effects' last well beyond the time that the geomagnetic indexes (Ap and Kp) return to the 'quiet' state. Conditions are usually better a couple of days of so later, provided there is no further disturbance. The fast fades cease and just a couple of much slower period fades remain, it is these effects I believe that can push the signal from CFH up over 40dBu for a period of about 30 mins. I think from the results I have studied that on the best nights the period of the highest peaks might be of the order of about 30 minutes. As we move further away from a disturbed period the deep fades disappear, and there can be a fairly constant strength for the whole of the main part of the night (see 11th Dec), sometime only varying by say 6dB. These night do not show the highest peaks but have the longest consistently high signal.... maybe a good night for MS1000 or 10 sec dots !! I also think, although we have no measurements to prove it yet, that the signals get better as we move west and weaker as we move east (as might be expected) Riks plots do maybe suggest that anyone seriously considering tackling the path should try to get some kind of a 'handle' on expected levels of CFH at their location, if they want to utilise the effect of the constructive interference on multipath propagation. Rik's plots make a fascinating gallery. I have not managed to print them yet in a sensible format so that I can compare them at leisure. I rated the 18th a 'moderately disturbed' night, because there were lots of components to the profile. It would have been nice for me to have been able to take plots on succeeding nights to see the progress of the 'event' to its conclusion. It would have been interesting if we could have managed to get a plot from Brian, but I understand his aerials suffered in the gales. Thanks to all who took part.....we must do it again sometime !! Hopefully CFH will come back before too long so that I can continue my studies. I am a bit ambivalent about the timing .....I would like to be able to get some plots before and after the 12/14 weekend, but I am aware that the appearance of CFH again will make Jack and John's job a lot more onerous. Alas, I have no influence on the Canadian Navy. Good Luck all. Cheers de Alan G3NYK JO02PB Alan.Melia@btinternet.com