Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18546 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2001 16:07:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 16:07:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 5759 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2001 16:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 16:11:03 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14DqNm-0002TL-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:03:22 +0000 Received: from mta01.talk21.com ([62.172.192.171] helo=t21mta01-app.talk21.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14DqNk-0002TB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:03:21 +0000 Received: from dave ([62.7.182.87]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010103160124.QMGZ19366.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@dave> for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:01:24 +0000 Message-ID: <004201c0759e$76a9dca0$57b6073e@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <22429.200101031458@gemini> Subject: LF: Re: Frequency stability, loops Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:00:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: James Moritz wrote: >G3LNP's design deliberately degrades >the Q to give a wider bandwidth, and eliminate the need for remote >tuning. Another reason why you might not want the highest possible >Q is that a high Q loop is more easily de-tuned, for example by rain >or movement. My loop, which is matched via a capacitor divider network as described on my web site, has a usable bandwidth of around 300Hz before retuning it is necessary. But it is not effected by rain or movement (apart from in heavy winds when the SWR jumps somewhat), the only environmental change is between hot and cold weather when the value of the tuning caps changes - on a cold frosty morning it is some 300Hz lower in frequency which rapidly moves the other way when the sun starts to shine on the matching box! I also spoke to Mike Underhill after his talk and he is certainly interested with the work we are doing with loops on lf. Results some of us have achieved seem to indicate that conventional theory is too pessimistic and I look forward to seeing his report in writing. It seems Mike is not available via email. Cheers Dave G3YMC sergeantd@compuserve.com dsergeant@iee.org http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sergeantd