Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18860 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 07:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 07:45:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29856 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2001 07:39:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 28 Jan 2001 07:39:16 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14MmLj-00076E-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:34:11 +0000 Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au ([203.26.10.16]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14MmLh-000769-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 07:34:10 +0000 Received: from steve (ppp185.dyn154.pacific.net.au [210.23.154.185]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA28791 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:33:53 +1100 Message-ID: <003201c088fd$280b3360$0301a8c0@steve> From: "Steve Olney" To: "RSGB LF Group" Subject: LF: Fw: [Lowfer] Proposed new LF signal format Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:37:17 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Oops, I meant to send it to the group !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Olney To: Stewart Nelson Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Lowfer] Proposed new LF signal format > G'day Stewart, > > Great stuff !!! Once again the US LowFer mentality has produced some > quality work (don't work harder, work smarter). > > Your knowledge and analysis are beyond my capability but it sounds good. I > won't be able to evaluate it though as my spare time is totally committed to > building up a FDK beacon (hardware and software) for evaluation. > > I wonder, could you find time to do an evaluation of my FDK method compared > to QRSS (0.4wpm, say) and your method. I know you are familiar with it, > but I will repeat the method here. Two tones are sent simultaneously for > one minute to encode a single character. The operator (or the software) > need only pick out the two highest amplitude tones from a one minute > spectral analysis to receive the character. I have beta tested some > enhancing algorithms (I call smart-scan) which seem to work well, such a > centre frequency tracking to allow rejection of tone pairs which don't have > a centre frequency close to the tracking centre frequency as well as > truncating the scan bandwidth around the centre tracking frequency. Also a > run length integrator (but of course using mode, not mean) really lifts the > performance. > > Without all those algorithms, the bare FDK works down to -43dB S/N on my > tests (I don't know how accurate that is, you and Kyle could better evaluate > it) while receiving a character/minute. I haven't evaluated it's > performance with the enhancing algorithms. > > Good work !!! Keep it up !!! > > P.S. I also think that long-term integration techniques with high quality > frequency and time control will bridge the gap across the Atlantic (maybe > not first due to the vagaries of LF propagation) but certainly on a more > consistent basis. As you know I have been pushing the narrowband barrow > for some years now. Who knows maybe some day across the Pacific (must not > let ourselves be limited by reality). > > 73s Steve Olney (VK2ZTO/AXSO - QF56IK : Lat -33 34 07, Long +150 44 40) > ============================================= > HomePage URLs: > http://www.qsl.net/vk2zto > http://www.zeta.org.au/~ollaneg > > Containing:- > ULF, ELF, VLF & LF Experimentation > InfraSonic Experimentation > Laser Comms DX > Amateur Radio Astronomy > ============================================= >